Prepared Floor
Statement by Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa
Chairman,
Senate Judiciary Committee
On Oversight of
the Justice Department and the Need for Transparency
January 24,
2018
I
wanted to come to the floor today to talk about the Judiciary Committee’s
important oversight and investigations work over the past year. There are a lot
of issues that need more sunlight and scrutiny.
One
of my key concerns is the loss of faith in the ability of the Justice
Department and the FBI to do their jobs free from partisan political bias. The
American people are rightly skeptical because of how the Department and the FBI
have handled the following subjects:.
1. Hillary Clinton
and
2. Donald Trump
and his associates.
Hiding
from tough questions about these controversial cases is no way to reassure the
public. If the Department is afraid of independent oversight, that just
reinforces people’s suspicions and skepticism. The only real way to reassure
people is to let the sun shine in and let the chips fall where they may.
In
each of these cases, the government should obviously find out what happened and
hold people accountable if there was any wrongdoing. But, it also has to play
by the rules, and be held accountable for its actions, too. We need to shine
the light of day on all of it.
As
part of our investigation we have requested documents and other information
from the Department of Justice and FBI. Much of that information is classified.
The Department has provided very limited access to those classified materials.
It has limited the Judiciary Committee’s review to the Chair and Ranking of the
full committee and the Subcommittee on Crime and Terrorism. The government has
also tried to severely limit the number of appropriately cleared staff who can
review documents and take notes.
We
have reviewed some information related to whether the FBI used the so-called
Trump dossier and the extent of its relationship with its author, Christopher
Steele. As we know now, Mr. Steele was hired by Fusion GPS to research Mr.
Trump’s alleged ties to Russia. His work was funded by the DNC and the Clinton
campaign. Remember, it took a subpoena and a court battle with the House
Intelligence committee to force that fact out into the open.
Lawyers
for the DNC and Clinton Campaign officials denied it to the press for months.
They lied. The founder of Fusion GPS denied that his firm was
“Democrat-linked.” That was untrue. When the news finally broke, New York Times
reporters actually complained that people who knew better had flat out lied to
them about who funded Mr. Steele’s dossier.
But,
back before the 2016 election, it is unclear who knew that Steele was gathering
dirt on Trump for the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Many of his sources for
claims about the Trump campaign are Russian government officials. So, Steele,
who was working for Fusion GPS, who was working for the DNC and the Clinton
campaign, was working with the Russians. So, who was actually colluding with
Russians? It’s becoming more clear.
Mr.
Steele shared his, at least partially, Russian-based allegations far and wide.
He shared them with the FBI. He shared them with the media. And, according to
public reports, he shared them with high ranking officials in the Justice
Department and the State Department.
Well,
in the course of our review, Senator Graham and I came across some information
that just does not add up. We saw Mr. Steele swearing one thing in a public
libel suit against him in London. Then we saw contradictory things in documents
that I am not going to talk about in an open setting. And from everything we’ve
learned so far, we believe these discrepancies are significant. So, we sent a
referral of Christopher Steele to the Justice Department and the FBI for
potential violations of 18 USC 1001.
Now,
I guess people are going to say whatever they want to say about it, no matter
what the facts are. But it doesn’t contribute anything meaningful to the public
debate to ignore those facts or to speculate—wrongly—about Senator Graham’s
motivations, or mine.
First,
despite all the hubbub, this is not all that unusual. Anyone can ask for a
criminal investigation. I have done it in the past when I’ve come across
potential crimes in the course of my oversight work. And I have done so
publicly. This situation is no different.
Second,
as the Special Counsel has reminded us all recently, lying to a federal
official is a crime. It doesn’t matter who is doing the lying. Politics should
have nothing to do with it.
I’ve
said repeatedly that I support Mr. Mueller’s work and that I respect his role.
I still do. Nothing has changed. Let me say it again in case anyone missed it.
The
Special Counsel should be free to complete his work, and to follow the facts
wherever they lead.
But
that doesn’t mean I can ignore what look like false statements. If an
individual sees what might be evidence of a crime, he or she should report that
to law enforcement so it can be fully investigated. That is exactly what
Senator Graham and I did.
That
does not mean we have made up our minds about what happened. It is possible Mr.
Steele told the truth and the other, contradictory statements that we saw were
wrong. But, just like any court would do, we start by assuming that government
documents are true until we see evidence to the contrary. If those documents
are not true, and there are serious discrepancies that are no fault of Mr.
Steele, then we have another problem—an arguably more serious one.
Of
course, even aside from these inconsistencies, public reports about the way the
FBI may have used the dossier should give everyone in this chamber pause.
Director Comey testified in 2017 that it was “salacious and unverified.” If it
was unverified in 2017, then it had to be unverified in 2016, too.
So,
it was a collection of unverified opposition research funded by a political
opponent in an election year. Would it be proper for the Obama
administration—or any administration—to use something like that to authorize
further investigation that intrudes on the privacy of people associated with
its political opponents?
That
should bother civil libertarians of any political stripe.
Now,
I wish I could talk more openly about the basis for our referral and other
concerns, but right now that information is largely classified. It is
controlled by the Justice Department. As I said, the Department has permitted
only the Chair and Ranking of the full Committee and the Subcommittee on Crime
and Terrorism, and limited numbers of their cleared staff, to see the underlying
documents.
I
have been pushing for the Department to provide the same access to other
Judiciary Committee Members and their appropriately cleared staffs. But the
Department refuses to provide that access or even to brief the other Members on
the underlying information.
Fortunately,
the Department has agreed that it has no business objecting to our Members
reviewing our own work. So I have encouraged our Committee members and their
appropriately cleared staff to do that. Look at the memo that Senator Graham
and I sent to the Deputy Attorney General and the FBI Director. Members can
then make up their own minds about it. I have also encouraged them to review
the Committee’s transcripts and other unclassified materials that have been
available to them and their staffs for many months. Finally, I’ve encouraged
them to let me know if they believe that any of that information should be made
public. I believe in transparency. We may agree that certain information should
be released at the appropriate time with care to preserve classified
information and the integrity of the investigation.
I
have already been pushing the Department to review the classified referral
memorandum to confirm the memo’s classification markings so that we can release
the unclassified portions as soon as possible. But now the Department has
deferred to the FBI, and the FBI is falsely claiming that three of our
unclassified paragraphs each contain the same, single classified fact.
Now,
that surprised me, because those particular paragraphs are based on
non-government sources and do not claim to repeat or confirm any information
from any government document. Even if those portions of our referral did
reference the allegedly classified fact at issue, it is hard to understand why
that fact should be classified.
First,
the Deputy Attorney General has discussed the fact at issue with me more than
once in unsecure space and on an unsecure phone line. Second, the FBI is not
acting as if this information would harm national security if released. FBI
never notified the entities copied on the memo’s transmittal, for example,
including the Inspector General and the Intelligence Committees, to ensure that
fact was protected as classified.
If
FBI really believed this fact was classified, then the FBI and the Department
should take better care to act consistent with that belief. Unfortunately, I
suspect something else is really going on here. It sure looks like a
bureaucratic game of hide the ball, rather than a genuine concern about
national security. I am pressing this issue with Director Wray, and I hope that
we can provide this information to the public as soon as possible.
I
also believe that the Department should carefully review the entire memorandum
and begin an orderly process to declassify as much of that information as
possible. The Intelligence Committee in the House of Representatives recently
voted to allow all House Members to review a short memo summarizing what it has
learned. Senators are not allowed to see it. However, House Members who have
seen it have been calling for a vote to release the memo.
Here
in the Senate, the Judiciary Committee has access to the same information that
the House Intelligence Committee saw before drafting its summary memo. Our
committee does not have the same authority to release classified information.
We have to rely on the agency to review and potentially declassify our memo.
Based
on what I know, I agree that as much of this information should made be public
as soon as possible, through the appropriate process. And, I don’t just mean
the summary memos. The government should release the underlying documents
referenced in those memos, after deleting any national security information
that truly needs to be protected. But most of this story can be told, and
should be told. The American people deserve the truth.
Stale,
recycled media spin from journalists and pundits who do not have all the facts
is not enough. The country is filled with frenzy and speculation, but hungry
for facts. However, I cannot release this information on my own, and neither
should anyone else. Classified information is controlled by the Executive
Branch. We should work together to achieve the greater transparency while still
protecting legitimately sensitive national security information.
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